Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот jorally » Чет Фев 26, 2009 15:52

P911S написа:
jorally написа:Thank you very much, txl ! One less name !

Does anyone knows ?

Other thing. Does anyone has the top-ten of the Zlatni Piassatzi Rally in 1974 and the Bosphorus Rally of 77 in Turkey who could share ?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge


Jorge,

Please find enclosed the top-ten of the Zlatni Piassatzi Rally in 1974:
1 Attila Ferjancz - Jenio Zamberi(H) Renault 12 Gordini
2 Ilia Tschoubrikov - Kolio Tschoubrikov(BG) Renault 12 Gordini
3 Robert Moucha - Riszard Ziszkowski(PL) Fiat 125 p
4 Stoyan Kolev – Valeri Kochev(BG) Porsche 911 T
5 Maciej Stawowiak – Jan Czyszik(PL) Fiat 125 p
6 Andrej Chichkov – Mihail Titov(SU) Moskvich 412
7 Marin Velev – Karamfil Elenkov(BG) Renault 12 Gordini
8 Jan Konecny – Jiri Rudnicki(CZ) Skoda 120 S
9 Rumen Minchev – Liubomir Yurukov(BG) BMW 2002
10 Radoslav Petkov – Gancho Ganchev(BG) Skoda 120 S


Thank You very,very much , P911 S !
Could I ask You if You final times of 9th and 10th as well the groups in which they run ?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
jorge
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот txl » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:00

Looking at the classification here in the forum and at the classification on http://golden-sands.rally-club.net/years_en/1974_en.html I start to think that the results of the Soviet Union team (9th, 13th, 33rd) are maybe results for the "Peace and friendship" championship and they are not their standings in the final classification. I remember that I saw the standings of the SU team in an article from old SU newspaper or magazine. I have to check again what it says.
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:01

P911S написа:RobertS / R5Alpine / Sainzfan,
First Rally Zlatni Piassatzi was in 1970 year, therefore the photos was from early other rally, #51 was Ilia & Kolio Tschoubrikov.

Thanks!
Do you know which rallye?
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:04

P911S написа:I use English version for names of the drivers, not the Hungarian.

Chubrikov - it is not Hungarian version.
Csubrikov - this is the Hungarian version.

Chubrikov - you can read it everywhere here forexampe:
http://golden-sands.rally-club.net/zlatni_en.html

Simply, I want to know which is the correct version of his name in English.
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:12

P911S написа:By the way, RobertS / R5Alpine / Sainzfan,, what You're looking for ........... I don't understand yet ???

I am - always - looking for old photographers, collectors, who has original photos - slides, negatives - from pre 1990 era, from behind the "Iron Curtain".
Also, there are many old photos in my archive, that I do not remember who were.....this is the reason, why I am sharing never before published old photos on the Net at many forums....
Somebody likes it, somebody does not like.....

By the way, I don't understand your question really.
I speak basic English.
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:18

txl написа:Looking at the classification here in the forum and at the classification on http://golden-sands.rally-club.net/years_en/1974_en.html I start to think that the results of the Soviet Union team (9th, 13th, 33rd) are maybe results for the "Peace and friendship" championship and they are not their standings in the final classification. I remember that I saw the standings of the SU team in an article from old SU newspaper or magazine. I have to check again what it says.

1974 Zlatni:
Walter Röhrl - Jochen Berger, retired accident
Altenheimer - retired because his co-driver(Bulgarian co-driver?) made a serious mistake on route.
Zöckl - Schurek BMW - retired, accident
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:31

P911S написа:1 Attila Ferjancz - Jenio Zamberi(H) Renault 12 Gordini

Attila Ferjancz - Jenoe Zsembery
I think it is the correct English version - sometimes I red " Feriancz " on official start-lists
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот jorally » Чет Фев 26, 2009 16:42

First time I've seen the of Chubrikov in a portuguese newspaper was in one article made by Martin Holmes and the name he used was Tchoubrikov ! That's why I used it from the beggining ! Also Attila Ferjancz !

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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот txl » Чет Фев 26, 2009 18:30

Transliteration of Чубриков in latin alphabet should be Chubrikov. However on his cars the name was written Tchoubrikov. So it is hard for me to say which one we should use.
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот stani111 » Чет Фев 26, 2009 22:43

Does anyone has the top ten of the Rally Zlatni piassatzi - 1970 and 1971
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Пет Фев 27, 2009 00:48

1987 St Ursanne

Chubrikov
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Re: Chubrikov v. Tchoubrikov v. Tschubrikov v. Czubrikov v. Csub

Мнениеот Nil SaTiS » Пет Фев 27, 2009 02:45

Gentlemen,

Tchoubrikov was the French transliteration of the name of Master Ilia.
Just remember that the original official language of FIA was French. Therefore, most Cyrillic language written names were transliterated using the French spelling rules.

Hence the difference.
Same about Cyrillic transliteration of Ferjancz.
In Russian it is palatalized - Ферьянц (using the "soft mark" (miagky znak)) for J.
In Bulgarian it is simply Ферианц, hence transliteration using I instead of J.

Hope to be of use with my linguistic impromptu.
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Пет Фев 27, 2009 11:26

Nil SaTis,
Thank you very much !
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот Nil SaTiS » Пет Фев 27, 2009 13:40

Be my guest R5. Master Ilia Chubrikov is originally my fellow townsman :)
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Re: Bulgarian drivers on European Rallyes - before 1990

Мнениеот R5Alpine » Пет Фев 27, 2009 21:44

Nil SaTiS написа:Be my guest R5. Master Ilia Chubrikov is originally my fellow townsman :)

...... :wink: ....

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